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From: Suford Lewis
Date: 05/28/98
Subj: Komarr
I got Komarr shortly before you posted your review and immediately read it
through three times. (You knew I was a violently rabid Bujold fan – well
it hasn’t abated at all, in fact it’s worse.)
There are worse things that you could be. Bujold is one of the
handful of SF authors that I read these days. I get crusty in
my senior years.
Your reaction was interesting – you expect in the next novel that Miles and
Ekaterin will be married (did you mean already, when the novel begins or at
some point in it?), but my reaction is that Bujold is doing Dorothy Sayers
(cf Strong Poison) which makes me rather wonder how many novels it will
take for them to marry – with Sayers it was around four (I’m not as rabid
about Sayers, or I would have an exact count).
I haven’t read that much Sayers so I’m not sure how strong the
parallel is. I dug into deja-vu and extracted the articles in
the Komarr thread in rec.arts.sf.written; it runs to about 200.
There was a lot interesting discussion. Everyone picks up on
the Sayers connection (Vorvayne, Vine) and there is a consensus
that (a) Ekatrin has to become herself, and (b) Miles has a long
way to go towards being a plausible mate.
As a tidbit, industry gossip from Baen (unvouched for) is that the
code name for the next book is IMPWED, that Gregor and Laissa get
married, that Miles and Ekatrin get married, and that it is a
romance with blazing blasters. The mind boggles.
As to my reaction: I am a soft old romantic in these things. I’m
want the boy to get the girl – or is it the other way around? But
of course I want to see the courtship which promises to be swimmingly
rocky. Komarr ends with Ekaterin having a crush on Miles – she
doesn’t realize it but we do. She has yet to realize the horrid
truth about Miles.
I will resist making a long boring set of parallels between Miles
Vorkosigan and Peter Wimsey and limit myself to observing that Bujold is
not really writing a series of detective stories, but exploring the kinks
in a life. She has possibly set herself up to get them together in the
next novel by preventing Miles from making Peter’s mistake of proposing
immediately. He wants her to have a chance to find herself as a person
first – the gift he has given all his previous loves – even though he knows
it could work to his detriment. The reader, with the advantage of hearing
the story from both viewpoints has more confidence, but Bujold doesn’t let
Miles in on it.
Quite right; she isn’t writing detective stories. Miles is not
a bad person and he is quite good about helping other people –
in a managing fashion. One trouble is that he doesn’t quite
understand that other people aren’t Miles; another is that he
sees the world in terms of covert ops and military operations
(his technique for getting Nikki out of the bathroom is a scream);
and still another is that he operates in the mode of annexing
people into his life. He’s good about it; he gives them the chance
to go on their own but that’s his implicit objective.
The courtship has not even begun and I expect that to be the subject of the
next novel. I had expected it to be the subject of _this_ one, but Bujold
kept her psychology honest and didn’t have them read each other’s minds or
fall into each other’s arms or any of that stuff you get in “standard”
best-seller romances. In fact, I expect she wrote part way through her
next novel, realized she didn’t want to make Komarr 600 pages long (or have
half of it happen on Barrayar) and found a reasonable stopping point.
One of the subjects of the next novel. Given that the entire
action of this novel happens in about a week it would have been
quite precipitous for them to fall into each other’s arms.
The first time I read it through, I thought it was slower moving than
usual. The second time through, I noticed some interesting details I had
missed the first time and couldn’t identify any parts I wanted left out or
covered in less detail. I loved the scene with the fall into the pond!
I even liked the fact that Miles has much less “heroism” to his part in
this one and Ekaterin doesn’t do anything that strains credibility for her
part. It needed to be that way – finely detailed.
Well, you know, it seems slower moving but that is a bit tricky.
The actual period of time covered is shorter than usual. In most
of her novels the moments of terror are covered in exquisite
detail and the stretches of boredom are barely mentioned. This
a stream of life novel – everything that happens is given equal
weight. (Not exactly but you know what I mean.)
I liked the near equal weight given talking small boys out of locked
bathrooms and talking terrorists out of their bunker. Of course, it also
reminded me of Georgette Heyer’s definition in Cotillion of ~”what a woman
needs in a man is not heroism with a sword or pistols but the ability to
get a hackney in the rain.”~ I have it on good authority that Bujold is a
Heyer fan…
Why am I not surprised. The nifty thing about Heyer is that she
has a balance of sardonic reality and slurpy romanticism.
P.S. Your Index of contributors to the May 98 letters says David Lewis (BTW
do you know what he is doing these days?) but I find the letter is actually
from David Smith.
Thank you – I’ve corrected it. I don’t know about David Lewis. There is a
David Lewis that some people think is one of the foremost philosophers of
our time but I don’t know if it is our David Lewis.
From: micallef
Date: 06/03/98
Subj: The Face of God
Hello Mr Childers,
I just read review of your book The Face of God –and I can’t seem to
find anywhere where I can lay my hands on a copy!
(This letter arrived by some misdirection in my email. I have tried
to answer it as best I can.)
There does seem to be some difficulty determining the whereabouts and
career of Dr. Childers. There is a home page for him;
the biographical information which I quote is not entirely helpful.
“The Food and Drug Administration and the Surgeon General have
requested that all details of Mr. Childer’s life be suppressed if this page
is going to be read by small children under the age of 60. The NSA,
however, has expressed an intense interest in his whereabouts.
Although we are not at liberty to discuss any of the details of his sordid
personal life we can say that he was a noted critic, reviewer, and author.
It is a lie but we can say it. Below are links to some of writings.”
I have located scattered references on the web to his works. The
publishers mentioned include The Brookings South Dakota Sheepherder’s Gazette,
Burning Cross Publications, Biodegradable Press, The Vanity Press, and
Varinoma press. I regret to say that I cannot find addresses for any of
these publishers nor can I find any of the mentioned works listed among
the books in print. You may have some luck with the bookstores in Harvard
Square as evidenced by a note I received from a colleague.
From: Tony Lewis
Date: 06/03/98
Subj: Scams and such
The D-Day scam was to convince Hitler that the invasion would take place
where he expected it to take place–at Pas de Calais. The cover plan
was Operation Bodyguard (In wartime truth needs a bodyguard of
lies–Winston Chruchill–not an exact quote). Bodyguard had additional
cover that there would be major landings in Norway; in fact, George
Patton (one of Suford’s relatives) was given command of a fake army
assembling in Scotland to add verisimilitude…
There is an SF story, The Quaker Cannon, which takes this one step further.
IIRC the enemy is leaked the information that the Patton figure is the
cover; however the “real invasion” is the cover.
Hitler’s belief in the Pas de Calais invasion prevented Rommel from
completing fortifications in Normandy. The decision to concentrate the
panzer reserves in the center of France and not release them to the line
commanders was typical of traditional German military thinking.
Interesting. Judging from the various scams the British ran during
WW II, it would seem that the principal tactic learned on the playing
fields of Eton was surreptitious knavery.
On another note–if the philosophical David Lewis is a professor at
Princeton, then he is, indeed, our David Lewis–subway fanatic, former
MITSFS member, and husband to Steffi Robinson (whose mother, if you
remember, was still fighting the Spanish Civil War into the 1960s).
That he is. I recall him muttering about multiple worlds and modal
logic when he was at Harvard. He went on to do an opus on the topic.
Steffi is much too good for him, but then she is much too good for
anyone.
From: Tony Lewis
Date: 06/03/98
Subj: Scams and such
Alice gave me a copy of Childer’s The Face of God for my birthday. She also
got me a copy of Hawthorne Abendsen’s The Grasshopper Lies Heavy, one of
the best alternate universe novels around. I imagine she found it in some
used bookstore in Harvard Square.
That figures. Harvard Square is a serious hotbed of unreality.
From: micallef ([email protected])
Date: 06/03/98
Subj: Reflections on Zhandivar
Hello Richard,
Thank you for the info on Childers what a tease though!
You’re welcome. You should check the link labelled essays;
it lists all the essays, reviews, et cetera. About
a third of the books reviewed do not exist. In one instance,
The Outspoken Princess and the Gentle Knight, the book exists
but the reviewer does not.
I must of missed part of this thread — where is the myth of Zhandivar
mentioned? You spoke of Chatham is he the romantic poet?
Ah, that is a different matter. Look up Zhandivar. It’s linked into
the poetry pages; there is also a link to it in the Reflections on
Zhandivar page. Zhandivar is a longish narrative fantasy poem;
Reflections on Zhandivar is an explanation of the poem in
terms of an invented mythology. Chatham is an invented literary critic.
He appears elsewhere as the author of Sons of the Bird, another book
which does not exist.
Think of this site as being somewhere on the edge of reality.
From: Reverend Bill
Date: 06/06/98
Subj: latest editorial
Herr Professor:
If we can assume that persons of both genders defecate once a day, as
opposed to urinating several times a day then the logical position for
the home throne would be up.
–der hubscher Engel
I stand corrected.
From: Ted Samsel ([email protected])
Date: 06/08/98
Subj: Anastasia
I just saw the animated ver with my son and daughter this evening.
Was this what you were lauding to the skies? I thought it was
pretty good, even though some of the ‘puter animation compilation
made my skin crawl. (Hey, I like and can draw perspective, but some
of the layering was a bit dense, visually. I.e. too many levels
w/o trying to do an MC Escher). Also, I ragged on about the geography.
I don’t think there are any gorges of note in the area of Petrograd.
Or were you talking about the Anastasia story in general?
No, I was babbling about the movie. The VCR version isn’t quite as
good as the big screen (and it does make a difference whether you
are looking at the letterbox or the trimmed version). For most movies
it doesn’t matter that much whether you see it on the big screen or
on the telly; it does make a difference here. Sheer size makes a
difference, particularly with the panning perspective scenes. There
are also differences in color values – reflected light vs glowing
phosphors. Also some of the detail is lost. Still the VCR version is
pretty good.
I don’t say it’s the best movie ever made – I just happened to get hooked
on it.
Geography not accurate? Er, that’s a minor detail. The whole story is
a fantasy. The real Anastasia story is interesting but quite different.
Ignoring that, the details of their trip are a little unbelievable. Okay,
a whole lot unbelievable. Three days, including a long stretch of walking,
to get from Petrograd to Paris? What about their papers which weren’t
any good. And so on and so forth. For that matter what about the
demons being able to blow up a bridge but not just blow up the train?
Why is it that the dog runs out into the maze and leads Anastasia to
Rasputin? There are lots of holes if one wants to look for them.
I will say that I liked the first half of the movie a lot better, particularly
the ghostly dance sequence.
From: Evil Jeff
Date: 06/09/98
Subj: Thank you for this site
I happened to see a question from an editor in a garden center product
supply magazine which simply stated “Thought for the Moment:
What was the best thing before sliced bread?” I liked it enough to use it
as a tag line. One of my friends recently happened on this site and
told me to check it out. It was great!! Even better, I LOVE LLAMAS!! It
was a bit of synergy (if I’m even using that word correctly, better get
out the dictionary) to see that.
I must commend you on a very interesting site and I will have a grand
time in exploring the items you have offered up for consumption.
Keep on writing!!
Llamas are good. Whole stuffed camel
is good too, or at least that’s what
the recipes page claims.
I hope you love for llamas is a, uh, platonic one. Have
fun browsing – there’s family fun for all here. Of course some of the
families are a little strange.
From: Oscar Beasley
Date: 06/14/98
Subj: Tool List
Loved your site at
https://richardhartersworld.com/~cri/1998tools.html. Saw a
reference to it on the LRO Digest and had to have a peek. Well worth
the visit!
Thank you for writing; kudos are always appreciated. It is a bit
disconcerting where references to this site turn up.
For the curious
LRO digest is the Land Rover Owner’s digest.
From: Michael L. Siemon
Date: 06/11/98
Subj: Bringing In The Hay
From Bringing In The Hay
“The other piece is the singletree. The dictionary says that
it is also called a swingletree or a whiffletree which is news to me –
I never heard of them being called anything but a singletree.”
If you look over soc.history.medieval about 6 months to a year ago,
you will find the most obssessive/compulsive discussion of horse
harnessing, with this referred to as a “whippletree” — obviously
a variant on whiffletree….
Oddly enough, it is whiffletree that is a variant of whippletree. A
bit of checking in the dictionary shows that whippletree comes from
whip+tree, where the “whip” comes from a particular style of tackle,
i.e., a way of rigging a pulley.
Singletree OTOH is self explanatory, particularly if you know what a
doubletree is – not to be confused with “The One Tree”.
My father grew up on a farm (southern Nebraska) and most of his
elder generation relatives were farmers in Kansas. Reading your
account, I am terribly glad I never had to deal with this stuff —
I suffered allergy miseries in the (relatively little) yardwork my
father insisted I do (making matters worse by insisting that it was
fun. Yeah, sure.)
But it was fun. 🙂
From: Lu Marie Ducharme
Date: 06/15/98
Subj: Dinner at Andre’s
I loved it. You made me cry. So full of kindness for all these nice people
who are not with you. Thank you!!
Thank you. I’m glad that you liked it. But I have to be kind to
those people – if one cannot be kind to oneself, how can one be kind
to anyone else?
From: Bill Froeschl
Date: 06/17/98
Subj: A Choice That Cannot Be Made
I’m not a philosopher by any stretch of anyone’s imagination but I did
read your page about the “Choice that cannot be made”. I didn’t really
follow all of your discourse but after reading it a thought occurred to
me.
Doesn’t God, or some supreme power ask, er, give us the freedom to make
just that choice every day? In each decision we make that involves a
choice between ourselves and somebody else, don’t we constantly have to
choose between what’s good for us or what’s good for the other person?
The sum of these tiny decisions affect the course of humanity and
ultimately its fate. If you make just such a choice every day, its not an
issue of “you win/I loose” but rather “win/win”. What’s good for the
whole is good for me. There is no eternal damnation if I choose what’s
right for humanity; it just seems that way. Thus, in my twisted way, I
avoid the dilemma.
The choices made in life are a bit different because in the end we die
and humanity continues on. Take as an example the planting of a tree
whose shade we shall never enjoy. There is no profit in doing such a
thing and yet we do it. There is, though, and that is that there is
no profit in profit. In the end all profits vanish in the grave.
Now one can argue that there is no gain to be gotten from helping the
future for we shall not share it. Conversely we can argue that since
that in the end no gain is possible and that since we must do something
with our lives we might as well do good. And the answer to that is
“why bother”.
So it might be argued yet few reason so. We follow, almost by instinct,
Donne’s “No man is an island”. In part we choose to live as part of
the whole, as though our actions are in behalf of a larger group with
duration past our own, and in part as an individual seeking their own
transient gain.
This we can do, and as you say, try to arrange things so that your
choices are win/win. In The Choice That Cannot Be Made, however,
your fate and that of humanity are as equals; you and the rest of
humanity continue on forever. That makes a difference.
Also…It would seem there has to be three entities involved in the
choice: the individual, humanity, and the one proposing the choice.
Therefor, although the individual may never realize his good if he choose
eternal damnation, the one proposing the question will know and so I say
that choosing eternal damnation is the right choice, albeit a painful one.
That is an astute observation. I have sprung this on people; I once
posted it in a news group, stimulating a lively discussion. No one
pointed out that the scene has three actors nor that you are not only
making a choice for yourself and others but you are also informing the
one proposing the choice of your intent.
The thought occurred to me that God might be pushing you to make a
choice because He is not truly all-knowing and needs to know how you
will choose. However that doesn’t follow because even if God knows
how you will choose he still demands that you actually make the choice.
(It’s the old predestination thing; you may be predestined to be saved
but you have to ask anyway.)
A way to think about this is that God isn’t really passing the decision
over to you; He wants to find out (or have you find out) what your
choice would be. That would shift the question over to “What does
God want to hear from me?” God, however, has the power to convince
us that He is serious about the choice so “what does He want to hear”
may not be in the cards.
Jeez, now I feel like I’m back in a college philosophy class. My brain is
getting numb again.
Even so.
From: BIGGAFIVE
Date: 06/23/98
Subj: Jesus Christ and Elvis Presley
i think even as a joke this is done in bad taste. as a fan and a church goer
i think people should stop comparing the two.
You’re right, of course, it is in bad taste. You understand, I hope, that
I am not going to pull the page but I’m quite willing to agree that it is
in bad taste.
BIGGAFIVE replied:
i’m sure you’re not going to pull the page because if you would a god fearing
person you wouldn’t have put it on there in the first place. i’m not the one
who has to answer to this. you are
Definitely a candidate for flakiest letter of the
year. The mind shakes to think what he made of
Tina.
From: Suford Lewis ([email protected])
Date: 05/28/98
Subj: Did you love me, chocolate?
The wonderful thing about the Chocolate poem is the (unconscious?) parallel
between lovers devouring each other and your protagonist eating the
chocolates; the obvious foolishness of his question to the chocolate
wrappers and the less obviously foolish cry of the break-up survivor of
“What did I do?”.
Quite unconscious, I assure you. I wasn’t quite thinking that way –
my thoughts were more banal although related. I was playing off on the
consumerist mentality of “chocolate induces a chemical response similar
to that of falling in love”, ergo “eating chocolate is the same as being
in love” and, I suppose, the absurdity of the difference. Only, as you
point out, the difference is not all it is credited with being.
Having had no thought of the chocolate’s pleasure during the action of the
poem is the parallel to the usual thoughtlessness (or at least unsuccessful
attempts at understanding) of lovers during encounters (however complete).
The lack of connection is then just the natural outcome – just as it is
with the chocolate. It needs the parallel with the lover being gone to be
more sharply drawn so it is not merely a silly play on “Was it good for
you?”. I think you get that with the protagonist addressing the wrappers
on the floor – parallel with inadvertently left behind clothes of a
departed lover. Or maybe I am reading in and the parallel needs enhancing…
No, I think you are right. I grant you that I didn’t see that when I wrote
the poem but, then, that’s the nature of poetry.
You have a wonderful knack for capturing the consequences of half percieved
experience. It makes your stuff very poignant. The protagonists come
across as fools when you make them too unconscious – but being a tortured
fool is a common human condition… You catch the “What was that?” part of
the missed perception that would explain the pain if only the perciever had
gotten a better look at it. (Is this making any sense?)
Oh yes. As the very ancient witticism goes, “I am too modest to agree with
you but I shall defend to the death your right to praise me.” I believe
that you have read George Orwell’s wonderful essay on Dickens. Orwell speaks
of how Dickens saw things; he had almost no consciousness of what things
are “about”. He didn’t see “the bureaucracy in action” – he saw red tape
and sealing wax. He didn’t see “the factory as a generator of wealth” –
he saw the physical shape of the factory.
I am not sure that is relevant except that I keep thinking of peripheral
visions of the mind.
The more I think about it the deeper your chocolate poem gets … ah,
deep chocolate…
Now write a poem of the chocolate being fully and completely experienced,
admired, and savored and becoming a part of the experiencer forever… Hoo
boy! Steamy!
Oooh. I don’t think I can write it but the idea has merit.
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