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handled very discreetly. This page contains the correspondence for
November 2005.
Some of it is a little ancient; I’m slowly catching up – very slowly.
From: Peter Neilson
ADMIN NOTE flynnd has been down for repairs recently.
I hope that the meatware component is successfully undergoing
spontaneous repair.
From: Margo
I’m not sure about any of the others, but at least three items
listed are inaccurate for the year given (1947):
1) Penicillin was accidently discovered in 1929, although still
almost nonexistent during World War II – there was so little
available that it was reserved for military use (although the US
supplied Great Britain with as much as it possibly could before
Pearl Harbor). It was credited with giving us an unbelievable
(til then) survival rate of 96% of the wounded – before this,
post-wounding infection caused most of the deaths during any war.
2) Baby boomers are generally considered to be any child born 9
months or more after our soldiers started returning home from the
war, ie, the beginning of 1946.
3) Although I don’t remembetr the exact year, air conditioning
was invented before World War II, although it was used in
commercial buildings for years before it was available for
homeowners. One of the big reasons summer was the blockbuster
season for films in the early years was because of the air
conditioning – quite often, the cold, refreshing air – was
advertised as much as, or more than, the film being shown at the
time.
So, based just on the penicillin, she must have been born in 1929
at the very earliest (in the months before penicillin was
discovered.) I also believe autos were more expensive, AND
affordable, by the post-war era. Possibly the original quiz had
the year 1927 listed, rather than 1947.
Fascinating collection, though, for most of the younger people
today, who have no idea how many of the things we take for
granted are actually very recent. I was born in 1956, and know
that many of the items listed are from MY lifetime.
Thanks for the collection, though – again, very interesting.
Maybe someone out there knows when some of the other earlier
events occurred, or things were invented.
As to point one, the puzzle distinguishes between “I was born
before” and “Man had not invented”. I think it is fair to take
the former as specifying things that were not generally available
in the culture before she was born. Much the same is true of
television, which was invented well before the war.
As to point two, the puzzle does not mention baby boomers.
As to point three, air conditioning was indeed available in the
the thirties. However *air conditioners*, i.e. air conditioning
machines installable in a home were a post-war phenomena. Sans
definite information to the contrary, my position is that the
air-conditioner was a post war invention. That’s my story and I’m
sticking to it.
Be all of that as it may, it is quite startling how much the world
has changed in a few decades. I have on file a list of things that
have always been true in the lifetime of an entering college student,
e.g., no one has ever walked on the moon in their lifetime.
From: Ronald Bashian
Dear Richard ( ? ),
I am a Christian and am trying to find the full quotation from (
? ) Perelandra, which begins:
The general context is that Ransom has come across Weston (the
UnMan possessed by a demon) disfiguring a frog like creature.
There are a series of passages about Weston’s face. The first
of these is that while Weston is rapt in his pastime his face is
that of a dead man. Then Weston turns and smiles at Ransom with
a literally devilish smile. Ransom stumbles and falls; as he
lies there he reflects:
Personally I think the “improvement” is better English; the
phrasing in question is one of Lewis’s rare bits of awkward
writing.
From: Bill Davy
In the fields of Hell where the grass grows high
Is much used in signature and I was pleased to find the source. Nice poem.
From: Peter Neilson
We have noticed that your quota for the month has
been exceeded. Clearly this must stop, because you
are giving the rest of us a bad name. Details are at:
http://home.earthlink.net/overquota.html
You might think that I should try the opposite
course and instead raise the quality and sanity
of my pages. It is well thought, Sir, but the
sad truth is that such a course is quite beyond me.
From: Lois Harter
Wow … my brother the cyber star. Tried to check your web page and got:
The Web page or file that you requested is temporarily unavailable. It
has been so popular this month that it exceeded its free monthly traffic
allotment. Access to this Web site will be restored on the first of next
month. Please come back then.
Thank you for your visit!
It’s flattering to be popular but it’s a real pain in the ass.
From: Mary Palomar
In the spirit of the Darwins is quite a story from
Seattle:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/245104_horseplay19.html
From: ADE OLU
Hello Sales,
If you accept all the informations listed below do get back to me with your
website and contact phone number for further consultment. I await your
response asap.
Thanks
From: eBay Member
se fotou
From: Richard Harter
Richard – you have my name.
Best regards, Richard L. Harter, CPM, CSM, CRES
From: Connie Delcourt
I have a great idea for a show you could do. Who do I see about it?
From: Peter Neilson
Others have joined the growing Creationist bandwagon.
Check out
http://www.venganza.org/index.htm
It may be that Highmore is a hotbed of Pastafarians since
the school sports teams are the Highmore Pirates. It may
be so, though I hadn’t noticed any evidence of them. In
any event I shall give the Flying Spaghetti Monster all
of the respect that He (It?) deserves.
From: Mike Z
It is interesting to see, in this context, stories like Night Land
http://www.thenightland.co.uk/nightwhatis.html
based on woefully incorrect models of the universe that were current are
the time.
The primarly conjecture is a world ten million years in the future where
the sun has burned itself out. This is a world view ignorant of nuclear
fusion.
similar in this regard, from the other side of the coin, are
theosophical maps of the earth, showing the history of the Earth and
Atlantis, drawn before the knowledge of Tectonic plates
http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/soa/soamap.htm
interesting to look at, a curiosity, but badly badly wrong.
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Date: 10/30/2005
Subj: flynnd >> flynndlog &
ADMIN NOTE On Sunday the meatware portion of flynnd was
ADMIN NOTE kicked by a horse and the excessive time flux
ADMIN NOTE thus generated restarted flynnd inadvertently.
ADMIN NOTE The results follow.
URL: http://richardhartersworld.com/cri/2003/elementary.html
Paragraph $-2 for poitn substitute point.
Paragraph $-2 for Howe substitute How.
Paragraph $-3 for “ata all” substitute “at all”.
URL: http://richardhartersworld.com/cri/2004/tmwfh.html
Paragraph 1 for Well’s substitute Wells’ or Wells’s
URL: http://richardhartersworld.com/cri_d/cri/1997/riding.html
Leslie’s Story paragraph 4 for someon substitute someone.
Darkest Carlisle paragraph 4 for friends substitute friend’s.
Corrections duly noted and will be attended to. However I will
have to check to make sure that “someon” is not someone’s name.
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Date: 11/8/2005
Subj: “How old is Grandma?” puzzle
Many thanks for the comments. The truth is that I received it
in email and don’t feel like changing it. That said, I will
none-the-less defend the puzzle.
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Date: 11/10/2005
Subj: CS Lewis – Beatific and Miserific Vision
, “As there is one Face above all worlds which merely to see is
irrevocable joy, so at the bottom of all worlds that face is
waiting whose sight alone is the misery from which none who
beholds it can recover. And though there seemed to be, and
indeed were, a thousand roads by which a man could walk through
the world, there was not a single one which did not lead sooner
or later either to the Beatific or the Miserific Vision.”
I had thought that the quote had a final, rather chilling,
conclusion – each person claiming the soul as “Mine,….mine.”
I wouldn’t put it that way. Lewis is saying God and Satan are too
strong for us; we are helpless to do else but accede before them. It
is we who choose the path that leads to the vision to which we
must surrender. But yes, God and Satan each claim the soul for
eternity.
Do you have the entire quote, with context both before and after
it? And can you give me a reference from a particular version
of Perelandra.
The passage in question occurs early in chapter 9 of Perelandra.
In the recent Scribner paperback edition it is on page 96. In
the earlier MacMillan paperback edition is on page 111.
By the way, if you want to read something REALLY SCARY, try That
Hideous Planet.
…
Incidentally, the source of your quotation seemingly
unconsciously “improved” Lewis’s text. In the original the
phrasing is “worlds merely to see which” whereas in the passage
you quote the phrasing is “worlds which merely to see”. A
search on the web turns up both phrasings. Thus
www.christian.org quotes Lewis incorrectly, whereas
www.discover.org and www.catholiceducation.org get it right.
As he lay there, still unable and perhaps unwilling to rise,
it came into his mind that in certain old philosophers and
poets he had read that the mere sight of the devils was one
of the greatest torments of Hell. It had seemed to him now
merely a quaint fancy. And yet (as he now saw) even the
children knew better: no child would have any difficulty in
understanding that there might be a face the mere beholding
of which was final calamity. The children, the poets, and
the philosophers were right. As there is one Face above all
worlds merely to see which is irrevocable joy, so at the
bottom of all worlds that face is waiting whose sight alone
is the misery from which none who beholds it can recover.
And though there seemed to be, and indeed were, a thousand
roads by which a man could walk through the world, there was
not a single one which did not lead sooner or later either to
the Beatific or the Miserific Vision. He himself had, of
course, seen only a mask of faint adumbration of it; even
so, he was not quite sure that he would live.
Perhaps you mean “That Hideous Strength”.
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Date: 11/10/2005
Subj: In the fields of Hell where the grass grows high
Are the graves of dreams allowed to die.
Thanks
Thanks for the kind words. I suppose the lines
speak to everyone at some time or another.
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Date: 10/30/2005
Subj: meeting your quota
Yessir, Yessir, I’ll do my best, Sir.
Alas and alack, my best so often is failure.
All too often professors include pages of
mine as reference material in their courses.
No doubt they do it for malign reasons, but
there it is. All too often national publications
link to some of my weirder jokes in a desperate
effort to pad out their amusements. Search
engines place some of my pages far too high in
the sort of searches performed by the perverted.
I respond to these invasions by regularly lowering
the quality and even the sanity of my pages,
but still they come.
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Date: 10/27/2005
Subj: Mr. Popularity
Sorry…Page Temporarily Unavailable
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Well you should be impressed. I’m not quite sure what is going on
other than its the first couple months of college. Oh yes, people
seem to be preparing for Halloween. The kitty litter cake page had
3944 hits before the plug was pulled and the whole stuffed camel page
had an additional 2350 hits. Then there is a joke page entitled
“Big Tits” that had 2467 hits; I have no notion why that one was
popular.
Date: 10/23/2005
Subj: candidate for 2005 Darwin Awards
Thanks muchly. The unnamed victim certainly is Darwin Awards
material, although given his proclivities he made not have
successfully bred in any case.
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Date: 10/12/2005
Subj: MAIL ORDER
This is ADE OLU here. I would like to make an order enquiry from your
store but before we can proceed i would like to ask if you can ship
internationally to my BRANCH OFFICE in Lagos State Nigeria. Also, i would
like to know if you accept creditcards of Visa & MasterCard. I would like
you to advice back asap if you accept creditcard and you can ship to my
Branch Office, lagos State, Nigeria.
ADE OLU
+2348025854163
Regrettably we don’t have anything for sale. Everything
we distribute is free and overpriced. We do take Visa cards
but only in batch lots of 500 or more. Please remit immediately,
but remember that we do not pay shipping.
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Date: 10/9/2005
Subj: Question From eBay Member
No hablo klingon.
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Date: 10/23/2005
Subj: Name
President / CEO
M/DRP Marketing Services
So I do. I’ll take good care of it. After all it
is one of the very best of names.
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Date: 10/23/2005
Subj: Survivor Show
I have bad news for you; I have nothing to do with the survivor show.
Try CBS.
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Date: 10/26/2005
Subj: More creationist religion
Very amusing. As it chances it is cross connected to
the Science Creative Quarterly (see the prize of 1000
Ramen packets) created by our very own Dave Ng who has
reprinted articles written by yours truly.
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Date: 10/23/2005
Subj: the death of Science fiction
It was an inevitable ignorance for a book written in 1912. I do thank
you for calling my attention to “The Night Land”.
Stories like jules vernes’s novels often survive because they were
accurate in their prescience.
It’s hard to believe that there are still theosophists but it seems
it is so. Thank you for these curiosities.
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